CBC Monitors Ukrainian Elections

On October 2, Mrs. Irene Sushko was interviewed by Carol Off on CBC Radio’s As It Happens current affairs show. Mrs. Sushko was head of election observer mission sent by the Ukrainian Canadian Congress to observe Ukraine’s preterm parliamentary elections on September 30.

Moderator Barbara Budd: In some ways, it feels like a rerun of the Orange Revolution. The results of the Parliamentary election in Ukraine could  hardly be closer. The vote is split between the parties that led the Orange Revolution and those, which support their rival, Prime Minister Victor Yanukovich. Both are claiming victory.

The election has been marred, again, by questions about the fairness of the vote. President Victor Yushchenko has ordered an investigation into voting irregularities in the regions dominated by Yanukovich. On September 28, we reported that Canadian election monitors in that same area were harassed by police when they discovered that officials were distributing too many ballots.

Irene Sushko is the head of that Canadian election-monitoring team, sent to watch the vote by the Ukrainian-Canadian Congress. We reached her in Kyiv.

Q.: Ms. Sushko, what’s your sense of how fair this election has been?

A. In terms of fairness, Carol, we have had a varying degree of results, some from the reports that you have already heard that occurred in Donetsk where there was a feeling that our observers were purposely being prevented from viewing the procedures …

this is for the audience to remember that Gerard Kennedy was talking to us about that on Friday, about Donetsk … and we were anticipating that may happen but we had the opposite end of the spectrum in places like Lviv, Kyiv and some of the other places. I personally opened and closed [monitoring] at one of the [polling] centres and everything there was absolutely exemplary but, generally speaking, there have been some things that we noticed, voter lists that perhaps were incomplete, sometimes there were extra ballots … but in terms of the general fairness, in terms of the democratic process, I think all would agree with me that we certainly felt that the democratic process is alive, that it is what the citizens of Ukraine would like to see.

Q.: There have been a lot of discussions about how this might be a replay of the Orange Revolution in that there is this suggestion of voter irregularities and fraud plus it [the count] being so close. Are we seeing the stage set for another Orange Revolution or something similar to that?

That is difficult to ascertain at this moment. I understand that some of the parties are really planning to object to some of the results. It’s our hope that this will go through a legal process and a fairer process …

Q.: There is the sense that, in the end, it’s going to have to be determined in the courts as it was in 2004 or how do you think, if it is this close, and there are going to be coalition blocs forming, who will ultimately call it?

Well, it will have to go to the courts. The parties not pleased with the results or have some questions about the results, will have to take it to the courts. That, of course, could be time consuming but if it’s done that way, then that shows that democracy is working.

Q.: Is it your sense that the fight which you’re seeing, though, being so close between Victor Yanukovych and Yulia Tymoshenko,[and] that the coalition will be the determining factor,  is how many other of the smaller parties join with either the “Orange” or “Blue” side - is that your sense of it?

I would think so, that once they determine even which of the smaller parties are going to be in on it. I think they’re still questioning that. Now, that would definitely determine what the coalition would be.

Q.: If it’s just based on what we’re seeing with Yulia Tymoshenko and with the party that supports Victor Yushchenko, it would look like the “Orange” side is winning but is it your sense of what you know [about] how the smaller parties on the left are organizing … - the Socialist, the Communists - would they join the “Blue” side?

That is what we have heard, but stranger things have happened as in the past. The obvious predictions would be that the Yulia Tymoshenko group and the Yushchenko group would join. But it’s difficult, depending on what happens with the smaller parties.

Q.: This election was supposed to settle the deadlock in Parliament, I wonder, could Ukrainians be back at the polls again soon?

I would certainly hope not. Our hope is that they would resolve this and move much more quickly in forming the government because; stalling was not good the last time and being deadlocked was not good the last time, creating this whole situation.

Ms. Sushko, I want to thank you very much for speaking with us …

Thank you so much, bye.

Irene Sushko is the National President of the Ukrainian Canadian Congress.